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anna genoese ([personal profile] alg) wrote2006-05-08 01:40 pm

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I had a really interesting experience this past weekend. I was at the Silicon Valley Romance Writers' business conference thingie, and I did a 45 minute Q&A. I was asked:

What are the things that make you cringe during a pitch session?

My answer was twofold:

1. When someone sits down and says, "I submitted something to you a few weeks ago and I want to talk about what you thought."

Jeez! There is pretty much no way that I am going to remember your submission, if I have even read it yet, which is, frankly, unlikely. I mean, that is just absurd. Not to mention that even though I personally tend to go through my submissions myself (even if/when I have someone act as "first reader" on some), lots of other editors do not.

As I have said before, more than once, we are not paid to read submissions. Assistants are paid to read an editor's submissions (at least partially, anyway) -- editors are paid to edit. Editors are paid to make their companies money. Okay, yes, it is totally more complicated than that, and I am not being fair or realistic -- but come on. It's neither fair nor realistic to expect (a) that I would have even read your submission yet, or (b) that I'd remember it.

2. When someone sits down and says, "I don't have anything to pitch to you -- I just wanted to meet you."

By doing this, that person is taking time away from someone who could be pitching to me. If you want to meet me, hook up with me at the bar like everyone else. We'll do tequila shots, I'll show you pictures of my cats, and by the end of the night (or drink), you will have one of my business cards, and an invitation to send your work to me if it's the sort of thing I acquire.

And if you don't know what I acquire, Google my name.

(To use an example that isn't me, if you buy Hilary Sares a drink, and she gives you a card, and you're not sure that what you write is what she acquires -- well, Google her name, and you will see that the first link is to a bio where it says plainly what she's acquiring. Hell, the worst that can happen is that she sends you a form reject, right?)

To sum up, in the words of [livejournal.com profile] jaylake: Don't be an idiot.

The interesting thing that happened to me, though, was this: people who I remembered from the panel, did exactly the above things, even after I'd said not to.

And not one person did tequila shots with me at the bar later, although I did have several delightful conversations over a vodka collins (with cherries and olives, thank you).

[identity profile] gardenwaltz.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
no, no, that's jaegermeister. darn good stuff when it's cold and you feel lousy.

[identity profile] oneminutemonkey.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if I've seen anything like this... if so, can you point me in the right place? What -does- a pitch meeting entail? Does one show up with a finished product, 3 chapters, or just a really great idea, or what?
Inquiring minds and all that...

[identity profile] neutronjockey.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'd make it a point to remember their names. Wasting another person's time is the absolute highest insult you could pay to them.
"Hi, I'm here to waste 10-15 minutes of your life." *grin*

**suhlaaaap!**
I should hire myself out as a pitch session bouncer for writer cons.
-=Jeff=-

[identity profile] alg.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Pitch Sessions: What they are and how to do it:
http://alg.livejournal.com/72895.html#cutid1

[identity profile] oneminutemonkey.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Many, many thanks. I somehow suspected you'd done an entry like that, but couldn't find it at the time. Highly informative, and useful! Had Butchercon gone off properly, I might have had the opportunity to have a pitch meeting. But it helps to know what it's all about so I don't end up wasting someone's time or looking like an idiot. :>

For your willingness to explain all these arcane aspects in such friendly, open terms, you're my favorite editor.

[identity profile] stephanielynch.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)

[identity profile] stephanielynch.livejournal.com 2006-05-09 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Worst one for me was having my appointments switched on me because the convention got it wrong. Lovely. They sit me, a paranormal with a strong sexy element writer, down in front of a Christian and Regency agent. Can you say we just had a nice chat? She was very kind about the mistake and invited me to submit to her if I ever wrote a Regency.

Bar Drinks

(Anonymous) 2006-05-11 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
When going to cons that don't have official pitch sessions, I've found it to be hard to spot an editor at the hotel bar. Is it okay etiquette to ask an editor between sessions if there's some time when I can buy them a drink?

Re: Bar Drinks

[identity profile] alg.livejournal.com 2006-05-11 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely!!!

[identity profile] norroway.livejournal.com 2006-05-13 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
(You already know this, but I thought I'd share.) Whether you're at a con or just sitting in your office going through the slush pile, you're going to run into people who just don't know what's going on no matter how many times you tell them. I edit children's and young adult fantasy. We have specifically said in many, many places that we don't publish picture books. About 80% of my slush pile? Picture books. Recently I got a postcard from someone who I must have sent a "thanks, but no thanks--we only publish MG/YA fantasy" form letter to. It said, "Thank you for your kind reply in requesting fantasy from me, but that's one area I don't write."

Uh. Okay.

But I wanted to say thanks for the P&L post from last month. A friend linked to you today, and it was interesting to see a concise review of the subject so well-explained--if I ever have anyone ask me how it works, I may just send them the link to your entry!

Stacy Whitman
Associate Editor, Mirrorstone Books

[identity profile] stephanielynch.livejournal.com 2006-05-15 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait! You got a form letter from someone? LOL! Now that's funny!

[identity profile] stephanielynch.livejournal.com 2006-05-15 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Darn it, Anna, I thought you would take the bait. :-D lol and running. I'll have Damiana for you in Atlanta. Have you ever had that? Mmmmm

tequila

(Anonymous) 2006-05-24 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't drink tequila, but I'll watch you at the bar. Going to RWA? Jackie and I are. We'll see you there.

Love, Miriam
aka J.M. Jeffries

Tequila shots

(Anonymous) 2006-06-09 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you know, silly rabbit, tequilla shots are ONLY done (at least done RIGHT) in Texas. Not surprisingly, good Southern hospitality dictates the hostess buy the guest at least one shot of good tequila before bringing on the rot-gut. It's all about the etiquette. And sometimes the dorky straw cowboy hats.

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